• MartianSands@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    I get really irritated when my phone limits volume with a notification like this, because the phone has no idea what hardware I have playing the sound. They’ve made some unfounded assumption about how loud 80% volume actually is, and interrupt whatever I’m doing to complain about it

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      I have this issue with my soundbar on my TV. The volume has to be like 95% or it’s too quiet. But if you disconnect the soundbar and just use the TV speakers you get absolutely blasted out of the room by normal speech.

      Measuring sound as percentages is meaningless.

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        7 hours ago

        Or different media types. Video games I have on about 20%. TV and Youtube is 35-50%. Blu-rays and DVDs are on 100% so you can hear them at all.

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      I dont have this problem because i have extremely sensitive hearing but still, seeing my phone say im “listening to 20db” for example, really got me thinking about how the hell would it know that.

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      One of my past phones had that feature, but you had to turn it on. I guess it would be a good function if you always listen via the same hardware. Or maybe per Bluetooth device at least.

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        My current phone has it turned off, so I constantly get notifications about how the high volume could be bad and recommending me to enable the feature… It drives me crazy, I have it at max volume because it is connected to my car’s audio jack and I use the car’s controls to manage the volume…

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        I have it now, and as far as I can tell it can’t be turned off. Really annoying when volume level doesn’t sync with the Bluetooth head unit in my car and this feature suddenly halves my volume

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      Yup! I use an aux cable in my car and then all of a sudden I’m driving in silence. I tried settings and developer settings, but this behavior persists.

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        And the output from the phone is so quiet even with my phone at Max volume I have to crank my stereo up on order to hear it. Switching input from Aux to anything else without lowering the volume first is what’s going to damage my hearing.

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        Mine fucking resets every few months… it just decides I need to re-up the “I understand I’ll go deaf” notification while I’m in the middle of a drive.

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          Mine too, and I am connected with Bluetooth! My car has a warning telling me to set my phone to max volume as radio controls are separate.

          Every few months I am left wondering why the volume is so low and having to look at my phone’s tiny text and touch the screen at the right place to hit the right one.

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      Ios lets you mark a Bluetooth device as a car stereo and it stops doing that. Maybe other device types too. Just make sure it’s not set as headphones.

      I’m sure Android has a way out too

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      TBF, if you’re doing it properly you should be using any exrarnal audio at line level and amplify it outside your phone to keep all audio devices at a standard level, it prevents some devices from playing too loud and some playing too quiet it also prevents clipping.

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        21 hours ago

        Using an Aux cable I have to crank my stereo up to be able to hear it even with my phone set to max volume. It doesn’t have an output level that’s a reasonable volume.

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        That’s pure wishful thinking. The vast majority of users wouldn’t even know what line level is, and you can’t expect end users to have audio engineering expertise. You also can’t expect anyone other than an audiophile or actual audio engineer to be able to get alll of their consumer electronics conform to such a standard

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          Devices used to have a dedicated line out you were never supposed to use headphone ports on external devices so technically you are just working outside of the standard, so technically your device is incompatible with all those external devices you are using, what we really need is a new protocol that is designed to keep everything at the same level on external devices.

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            Given that we’re discussing the behaviour of phones, I’m quite certain that there was never a time when they generally had line out ports. Also, I can’t imagine people are connecting their Bluetooth speakers to the wrong interface.

            What you’re describing is still wishful thinking, because there’s no world where every consumer device is going to have accurately calibrated volume regardless of whether there’s a protocol which specifies it.

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              If we’re discussing Bluetooth that is entirely on the manufacturer to make sure it is seen as an external device instead of headphones if your device is showing as an external device and you are still getting that message then it is a bug with your phone.

              But anyway you look at it a head phone port was designed for headphones exclusively and using it in any other way is incorrect , we have a work around it’s called line out and it should never go above line level line out is lower than a headphone port so the audio warning should not affect it at all if it does you are either not amplifying your audio correctly or the manufacturer made it incorrectly.

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          Comes up all the time, and I’ve used android phones for almost 17 years. Maybe you don’t leave your music volume pegged all the time?

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            I wonder if it depends on the phone. I remember seeing it a bunch which was super annoying when I was just using the aux in my car. My 2 year razr doesn’t seem to care if my ears bleed at all. I saw the message once when I got it and it never returned.

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            Nope. I’ve just turned my volume up to max settings and then kept my finger on the button nothing comes up it just stops increasing in volume.

            I feel left out, like Android doesn’t care about me.

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            Literally always have my volume at maximum have never seen this particular screen. Sometimes I’ve seen just the basic toast notification that they don’t recommend raising the volume more but I can just keep pressing the button to raise it anyway i’ve never seen a full last screen going about a limit

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    AI Assistant: I am sorry, but your headphone volume cannot be turned up past this point unless you get a note from your audiologist. Would you like for me to put on some soothing AI interpretive jazz?

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    i listen to YouTube videos essentially the entire day (yesterday 8 hrs) and here’s my levels:

    here’s my cat

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    If they were really concerned about me damaging my ears, why not make the maximum volume lower than that?